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Amen my FOT brother! Too often in the recruiting process one or both parties (candidates and clients/companies) take the approach of acting too cool and not expressing interest. As you've stated, that will eventually be interpreted as not BEING interested and people will move on. Of course, there are those candidates that can take being interested to the extreme and shoot themselves in the foot by becoming pushy and annoying... That's good fodder for another post!

Maybe because "selling" is such a dirty word to many, people are afraid to "ask for the business". A similar problem exists amongst sales "representatives" (vs. professionals, who know how to genuinely, professionally, consultatively manage the idea of an exchange in a relationship.) Effective communication is such an under-developed skill in so many situations - compounded by the slippery slope of individual perceptions, assumptions, and expectations. I think it's much like a heady joke - if you have to 'splain it, they don't deserve to get it anyway.

I was on an interview when one of the Mgr's i was interviewing with asked me point blank "Do you want this job?" I was stunned - of course i wanted this job, why the hell else would i be on an interview (it wasn't for my health). Needless to say i quickly replied that i seriously wanted the job and began to list several reasons why & what i would bring to the company. (p.s. i got the job, it was with HON)
All that's to say, now i make a point to clearly communicate when i want a job or promotion. Sometimes us Rockstar candidates need a little coaching. If you're a recruiter, isn't part of your job to prep your candidate for the interview - and thus remind them or reinforce the fact that if they are really intersted in the job that they need to clearly and explicitly say they are interested. After all there's only so much selling you as a recruiter can do on the candidate's behalf. I'm sure clients like hearing from a recruiter that a candidate is interested, but i'm even more sure they'd rather hear it straight from the candidate.

Jennifer - back at cha!!!
I look at the "art" of asking for the job as something a candidate really wants to do and it should not be a sales pitch - but more like a natural way that candidate conveys their interest. Once a candidate gets to the final interview they must declare and let the potential employer know they are interested - if they really want the job. It should be natural and from the heart.

And...yes we do prep each candidate for all interviews. In the end, it's really up to them to declare their interest level. We can get them to the final dance - but after that...it's up to the candidate to close the deal! Great posts!!!

just thinking about this one and i don't know if i'm naive, but i kinda feel like if a candidate is engaged in the process... all the way up to the point of providing references and all that, doesn't that tell us that they want the job? sure, i like a, "i'm really excited about this role," or a, "i'm looking forward to joining the team..." but to straight up ask me for the job, i'm kinda turned off by it!

i also wonder how we feel about the fact that in some cultures, it isn't okay to be so brazen and forthright. if you were raised to be modest and humble and unassuming and reserved... to just ask for something, like a job, and be so bold, well, it's just not in everyone's DNA to be like that... so if it's culture that is preventing a candidate from being "rockstar"... is that really fair? or is this just the western way of viewing what a rockstar is?

just something to think about...

Jessica:

OUCH!!!

Let's re-open the case...shall we? Just kidding:-)

My point was to say that if a candidate is interested in moving to next steps - they should convey their interest to the person conducting the interview. I'm not talking about begging or giving a sales pitch - just a hint to indicate their interest. I've had experience with some candidates that never show their cards OR worse, they have such a HUGE ego - they leave the interview waiting for the client to beg them to move forward.

I have found that if their is NO hint, NO thank you note, NO e-mail ...in many cases their is... NO offer. That was the entire point of my rant.

I also don't think that how one views a rock star has much to do with geography. They either rock - or they don't.

Just my opinion. As always...great post Jessica!!

I'll split the middle on this one. While I agree with JLee that not everyone has it in them to ask for the job outright, I don't think that's required. What is required is not to be so much of an introvert that you can't develop a good flow with the person that's interviewing you. You've got to make the connection that let's them know in addition to the skills, you're comfortable enough with the company/job/hiring manager to have some personality.

Show an interest, make a connection, have a personality. Don't be a formal clone. Don't feel like putting yourself out there? Someone else will, and the job will be theirs... Can I get a "where do we go from here?" from the candidate?

That statement alone is a classy way for the introvert in you to get around asking for the job directly....

Plus Tolan's got the bazooka out to bag game with his candidates. When "Grand VP of Business Development" is in the title, your expectations change... :)

KD

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